I think whatever is in the box is whatever you habitually put in it. For me, it was pain. Pain ratcheted way up. I haven't figured out to balance the pain, but I did seem to balance the ratcheting up somehow when I was fooling with it on the crapper this morning. (Yes. You too can use the 3dmind anywhere ) I seem to be doing much more today in an easier way without worrying as much, I think, but it is hard to tell. Today seemed pretty routine.
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Re: So what's in the box?
Posted On Nov 29, 2007 at 6:38 AM
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I'd also ike to know your 3 questions for determining what's in the box.
Me too, but maybe that's not the point of the exercise. I'm not quite sure of the right term here but the best I can come up with is that the box is a "shaggy dog story". In other words, There is no definitive answer ! At least, not a "one size fits all" answer. (Tom will probably post now and prove me wrong.)
What I have learned from considering the discussion is that if what is in the box is "what we want", you CAN have it, but you have to pay the price, whatever that is. It might be that it's just plain sailing, or it might be a really hard time. I guess the corollary to this is that you should make sure that what you go after is what you really want and that it serves you !
And that brings us to where we came in ... As I recall, the path that we have come down is that this started because Tom was talking to Dave about not knowing what he wanted. My guess is that the lists and the box exercise are steps along the way to working on this question. It's certainly something that is relevant to my life at the moment, so I'm with you when you say ...
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We're almost a week in and I don't have any clear idea where the two week is challenge is going yet.
When are you revealing details?
... or should we just sit tight and let Tom drive the bus to where we need to be ?
Whaddya say Tom ?
Roger
Re: So what's in the box?
Posted On Nov 29, 2007 at 6:55 AM
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Im guessing that the exercise is about how we consider undefined options. If you dont know what you want then its an empty box. The questions that we ask before embarking on our discovery can be the very same things that stop someone going anywhere as there is no answer to how much pain or pleasure there is without opening that box. Unless you ask someone and then even then do you trust the dentist when he says this wont hurt? So you cant really trust the answer and ask someone else or the same question in a different format hoping to get the answer that will satisfy the risk,pain,pleasure question set. Which may be why people keep going over or theorising the same stuff without ever trying a single thing.
The thinking that Tom pointed out means that type of questioning just sends a person in a loop of inaction.
So what would be better questions to ask Tom? And is the answer 'Just do it and see what happens' attitude and what gets in the way of just doing it? As there really isnt anything that painful in the world unless you happen to jump out of a window or in front of a car?
Enquiring minds want to know.
Perhaps?
Re: So what's in the box?
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[quote]I'd also ike to know your 3 questions for determining what's in the box.
Me too, but maybe that's not the point of the exercise. I'm not quite sure of the right term here but the best I can come up with is that the box is a "shaggy dog story". In other words, There is no definitive answer ! At least, not a "one size fits all" answer. (Tom will probably post now and prove me wrong.)
What I have learned from considering the discussion is that if what is in the box is "what we want", you CAN have it, but you have to pay the price, whatever that is. It might be that it's just plain sailing, or it might be a really hard time. I guess the corollary to this is that you should make sure that what you go after is what you really want and that it serves you !
And that brings us to where we came in ... As I recall, the path that we have come down is that this started because Tom was talking to Dave about not knowing what he wanted. My guess is that the lists and the box exercise are steps along the way to working on this question. It's certainly something that is relevant to my life at the moment, so I'm with you when you say ...
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We're almost a week in and I don't have any clear idea where the two week is challenge is going yet.
When are you revealing details?
... or should we just sit tight and let Tom drive the bus to where we need to be ?
Whaddya say Tom ?
Roger
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Your thoughts mirror my experience of this. It has certainly made me consider what I was doing to get what I want and how to get better results through a few realizations and different mindsets and routes to take. Shake up the defaults. Being comfortable with the uncomfortableness of something new. Realizing that it is just new and the uncomfortable part is just because it is something new and unknown. Not bad or even undesirable. Just new so I need some time to get used to it but everything will be ok. Just concentrate on being comfortable with that aspect and the results will come much easier.
Re: So what's in the box?
Posted On Nov 29, 2007 at 1:05 PM
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I found it useful becuase it pointed out my first automatic reaction which was fear. I then worked with the 3D Mind and foudn the belief and balanced it. So it helped me in that way.
Another interesting thing that I found is that since either one could be in the box it is interesting that I decided in my own mind that it must be something painful rather than deciding that it would be something pleasurable. I am curious now to find out why that was my first expectation.
I will post what I find
Thanks
Shane
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I haven't figured out to balance the pain, but I did seem to balance the ratcheting up somehow when I was fooling with it on the crapper this morning. (Yes. You too can use the 3dmind anywhere 
) I seem to be doing much more today in an easier way without worrying as much, I think, but it is hard to tell. Today seemed pretty routine.
