I just joined, really to say how cool the ES stuff is and express my gratitude to Tom and Kim. Haven't found any other way to do it than on here.
My relationship with Essential Skills stuff doesn't show me in a good light. I first heard of you guys I think in 2002. I bought the VHS of a seminar plus 3DMind.
What did I do with it? Nothing. It sat there on my shelf. I watched it but I could make nothing of what was happening or I was too scared to try anything.
Fast forward to now. I've been meditating a while and a friend of mine turns me onto a book that combines in some NLP. Hey, do I have those tapes still? I look them out... about one month later I have made so much progress everyone I know is after my secret! I cannot believe how good this stuff is. I want to tell you I feel like a prime idiot for doing nothing with it so long; never give up even on your stupidest customers! Because eventually you never know, we might catch on.
I have a question, I suppose it doesn't really need answering but I'm very curious. I won't say I'm experienced in NLP but *every* other thing I've looked at is *nothing* compared to what is being taught here... I guess, I'd just like to know how come that is! It's not just that it's all organized so well and that all the overly wordy theory is gone, replaced with sound stuff that really works, it's also that it's so... elegant. There are so many little quality tweaks, so much instinct and good intuition has gone into everything.
I'm really floored, and just so that I can know a little about the methods that have swung me up to where I want to be - how on earth did Tom and Kim do this? How did you manage to streamline and perfect all this classic NLP stuff? How did you come up with 3DMind? Are you just insanely talented? Did you have amazing teachers? Did you come up with a whole new approach from somewhere?
Perhaps I should know the answers to these questions but I don't really know the 'lore' of NLP very well. If it's ok to ask, how did you come up with such good stuff? Because I haven't seen anything else at all that compares with it.
Thanks very much for reading all this! Jason
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Posted On Feb 16, 2008 at 4:26 PM
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jwoodin2
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I look them out... about one month later I have made so much progress everyone I know is after my secret!....
I want to tell you I feel like a prime idiot for doing nothing with it so long....
Absolutely awesome.
Isn't it great how just taking one step forward can counteract *years* of inaction?
There's no stopping you now!
And please continue to post on your experience.
~John
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Posted On Feb 16, 2008 at 5:45 PM
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The way we came up with this stuff is the same way that other inventors come up with stuff
I was watching an interesting program on TV a while back. It was called " How William Shatner Changed the World ". It was about how all the things that were on Star Trek inspired inventors to create real life workable inventions.
For instance. The guy who invented the cell phone was on there saying how he was inspired by the communicators in Star Trek. Great show if you ever have a chance to watch it.
Kim and I did pretty much the same thing. We went to seminar and learned about stuff that was supposed to work. The problem is that is only worked in the seminar show and in the real world failed miserably. We tried all the ways it was taught. It just did not really work.
So we went out into the real world and invented ways to make the concepts that we were introduced to really work outside of a seminar show.
It took years of work and a bit of deprogramming ourselves of stupid ideas in order to come up with stuff that worked in the real world.
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Posted On Feb 19, 2008 at 7:22 AM
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John - no, absolutely no stopping me! I'm finding stuff every day that links in with all the other things I do and it seems like there's no end to it. I will continue to post if I have time.
Tom - I think I know exactly what you are saying. You see something that could work - should work - and you decide the world would be so much of a cooler place if it *did* work. So you *make* it work.
More and more it seems to be the key that to get anywhere you (mostly) have to ignore 'common wisdom and theory'. That is, the stuff 'everyone knows is right' is often wrong or anyway needs a long hard staring-at. That's why you say you had to deprogramme yourselves of dumb ideas. Basically you wanted something that worked for real on the ground and screw the theory, this is an attitude I respect and I wish more people had it.
Just about everything that is really cool started off with a person, a dream, and 8 million idiots standing by saying, 'what you're trying won't work.'
Thanks to both you and Kim! jason
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Posted On Feb 19, 2008 at 10:11 AM
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